DWQA QuestionsCategory: Limiting BeliefsHow would you make a case defending the reality of the divine to a group of atheists?
Nicola Staff asked 3 years ago
We are used to working in specifics and have the luxury of understanding who we are dealing with and so can craft a tailor-made strategy that has the greatest chance of producing a positive benefit for the recipient. After all, that is the purpose we always have in mind—not winning for the sake of winning if there is a differing view, but extending an offering of betterment the person can still reject if they choose. So what we would do is a composite of all we have been discussing here among your various questions in how to deal with the problem of persuading the non-believer, to first partner with the divine and set the intention to have God alongside you as you proceed with your endeavor, knowing the many challenges it can represent, but also with a strength of inner conviction that you will not be alone and that you have the advantage of receiving divine inspiration, guidance, healing, support, and protection for the asking. You must still do your homework. You must still have a deep understanding and appreciation for divine wisdom in order to be a spokesperson who can be effective. If your arguments are weak and poorly crafted, you may not win the day but that will be your failing and not ours. Our difficulty in what you are asking is that we are forbidden to do what you wish to do yourself. In other words, we would very much like to see everyone believe in us, embrace a partnership with us, and strive mightily to walk the talk, so to speak, to stay in divine alignment with all their capability they can muster with every fiber of their being striving to live through divine truth and to be an ambassador for love in every interaction. When it comes to persuasion to convince others to a view of our liking and preference, this goes against the very mandate that humans have free agency and free will to make their own choices, so we cannot persuade and counter people directly to tell them what to do and how to be unless they, themselves, ask our opinion and invite us to weigh in with a description of what would serve them. So an honest desire to have divine guidance will always receive a reply. It will come in at an opportune moment and likely as the person’s own creative idea but may on reflection be seen as truly divine inspiration, especially if it is something novel they have not considered heretofore. So we cannot present an ironclad programmed series of arguments designed to counter and parry every argument and position that might be taken by an atheist to render them powerless and defeated without the possibility of a further comeback, because it is so thorough and so unassailable they become defenseless, because that would be taking away their choice to be misguided, to be even on the wrong side of an argument from our perspective. We simply cannot take that away from them, so this is why you are struggling as humans here and now, that we cannot do it for you to make the world perfect. The fact it is not perfect is therefore your problem to solve and to see to, and that includes persuading your opponents to consider your perspectives and win them over if you can. So we cannot lead you in how to do this by stepping out in front and honing a strategy and constructing a powerful weapon of logic and reason with a divine level awesomeness that would intimidate and render an atheist powerless to respond. The divine approach is one of an offering, one of an encouragement to consider alternatives, one of showing one’s wares but then allowing the other party their birthright to choose or reject what they are shown. This is how we must be, so what we would say in answer to your hopeful request we can come to the rescue here, is to turn this back to you, because you exist as our answer for the non-believer. You were created to be our champion and to be the point of the spear, so to speak, to make a divine argument, and to win the day by raising up your opposition and the evil ones working against you to save them from themselves. This is the most powerful persuasion there can be, to show divinity in action and by the fruits it brings, create a revelation for the non-believer that cannot be ignored or rejected because it will, in fact, change reality in an unequivocal fashion. This we have set in motion already but is underway through you, largely. You will have your own creativity to draw on here and much divine wisdom we have conferred to you through a long history in answering the many reaching out to us for answers, for guidance, and for upliftment through being shown divine wisdom. This will continue and is your greatest strength, that you have the wherewithal to talk with us, but we cannot do it for you. We can help you bit by bit in various ways, mostly indirectly through inspiration and in part through direct answers where you need help, clarification, and greater insight to cope with a challenge of some kind, but we cannot truly solve the problem, merely give you additional ammunition, additional tools you can put to work to craft the ultimate answer you need. There is beauty and wisdom in this relationship because your eventual success will truly be yours, not ours, and that is the essence of partnership at its best, to have both parties play an important role but not to the diminishment of the other. To have a true sharing, to be true contributors, and we would argue your part of the bargain is the hardest by far and that is the source of your greatest concern, that you worry you will fail, but we see this as the greatest possible opportunity there could ever be, that having a challenge of this magnitude will be proof of your divinity in the end and will be the most meaningful possible proof of your learning and growth commensurate with a greater responsibility in helping many others in the future. You are destined for great works. It is an irony of history that your greatest challenge will be the messiest, the most unpleasant, and the darkest, but your victory will be all the more glorious when you prevail in the end and right the wrongs of history to save the interlopers and raise them up as an example of how to deal effectively with the problem of evil. This will stand for all time as the greatest achievement and assure your place in history.